tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post5332420983099508899..comments2023-11-02T07:54:22.317+00:00Comments on Unenlightened Commentary.: David Starkey On The RiotsRosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-70768567732511661162011-08-24T07:34:08.746+01:002011-08-24T07:34:08.746+01:00Edwin- Then shouldn't they be having riots eve...Edwin- Then shouldn't they be having riots every week in Liverpool?<br /><br />James- The extreme shopping aspect of it is certainly a factor.<br /><br />Matthew- That did occur to me, and there is probably some truth in it, but they do have the same media and their police forces operate on similar lines to England's.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-86997981987587892492011-08-23T15:51:12.076+01:002011-08-23T15:51:12.076+01:00Is it possible there were no riots in Scotland for...Is it possible there were no riots in Scotland for the same reason there were no riots in Ireland or for that matter the Netherlands, ie Scotland has enough of a separate country mentality (or reality) about it?Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214026669109045616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-82743611580451838722011-08-23T13:27:41.277+01:002011-08-23T13:27:41.277+01:00Yes there are, Ross. I really do think it was a t...Yes there are, Ross. I really do think it was a test run and the way all the middle-class ran out and joined in picking up some bargains was a different issue.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-29913676076568912612011-08-22T14:07:15.200+01:002011-08-22T14:07:15.200+01:00Liverpool does indeed have a strong local culture,...Liverpool does indeed have a strong local culture, but it is a largely a culture of victimhood and resentment. Nihilism, baseless resentment and a sense of compensatory entitlement are features of the "gangsta" mentality that Starkey referred to.Edwin Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639193560457674072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-16180285055905296192011-08-20T15:04:25.460+01:002011-08-20T15:04:25.460+01:00"there must be other factors at play like pol..."there must be other factors at play like policing"<br /><br />I agree - local policing is a factor to be considered. How could it not be?A K Haarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897490979828603179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-52619787712979336132011-08-20T11:06:44.098+01:002011-08-20T11:06:44.098+01:00BBC radio 4 gave an unexpected, if unenthusiastic,...BBC radio 4 gave an unexpected, if unenthusiastic, plug for this article this Saturday morning.<br />along this lines of "<i>David Starkey seeks to clarify his views following the outage over his comments on Newsnight. It is in todays Daily Telegraph </i>(hugh!),<i> if you want to read them"</i>. <br />Sarky but at least they didn't use the 'R' word.<br /><br />Growing up in London back in the seventies and eighties I had a very stong sense of regional identity, so much so that I was taken in when the Common Market began their "Europe of The Regions" since, yes, that was my Region, the good old GLC supremoed by Horace Cutler no less.<br /> That the rest of the country was arbitrarily carved up was of no concern.bannedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406037760273820029noreply@blogger.com