tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post8313946806599857755..comments2023-11-02T07:54:22.317+00:00Comments on Unenlightened Commentary.: 'Tolerance'Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-32122348060472159192010-04-09T18:44:16.748+01:002010-04-09T18:44:16.748+01:00Anon- I don't think I am moving the goalposts,...Anon- I don't think I am moving the goalposts, the ledger example is just an extreme version of the B&B case. Also I disagree that the issue isn't behaviour, I couldn't imagine even the most anti-gay God botherers would object to two people who were gay staying in separate rooms.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-25564771985044531002010-04-08T21:29:49.720+01:002010-04-08T21:29:49.720+01:00http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/im-v...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/im-voting-labour-founder-of-tory-gay-rights-group-says-1938700.htmlasquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-71976162964766334372010-04-08T13:49:10.317+01:002010-04-08T13:49:10.317+01:00Ross:
You and others are moving the goalposts now...Ross:<br /><br />You and others are moving the goalposts now. The issue concerns sexual orientation, not behaviour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-45778442833434389502010-04-08T13:05:34.631+01:002010-04-08T13:05:34.631+01:00Anon- I do understand the argument you are making,...Anon- I do understand the argument you are making, but to take that example further, would someone taking in a lodger be obliged to accept any behaviour under anti-discrimination law?<br /><br />Asquith- you're right about Grayling's position being confused.Rossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-15782465720773434102010-04-08T10:49:21.718+01:002010-04-08T10:49:21.718+01:00BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FUCKING HOUSE
Amen.BECAUSE IT'S THEIR FUCKING HOUSE<br /><br />Amen.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-71796059072005443572010-04-08T09:27:01.509+01:002010-04-08T09:27:01.509+01:00"Lamp up" anywhere?
No, to repeat: &qu..."Lamp up" anywhere? <br /><br />No, to repeat: "If you rent out a portion of your house to the public then <b>that part</b> ceases to be your home."<br /><br />That's the last of my free legal advice. From now on you can jolly well pay a lawyer to explain the niceties to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-16489208492385603912010-04-08T01:30:18.347+01:002010-04-08T01:30:18.347+01:00@ Anonymous 11:39
So presumably I can wander int...@ Anonymous 11:39<br /><br />So presumably I can wander into any B & B in the land and smoke, can I? It's a legal product and the Health Act 2006 (Smoking Ban)does not cover hotel rooms. So I can lamp up anywhere I like because "It ceases to be their home." <br /><br />But I can't. No trade law prevents me from doing so yet I can't. Why?<br /><br />BECAUSE (as has already been stated) IT'S THEIR FUCKING HOUSE. <br /><br />When even one of the most draconian infringements on private property rights of recent years recognises that hotels and B&Bs can dictate what goes on in their property, you must realise this whole argument is a complete non-starter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-56800827892499403022010-04-07T19:27:06.915+01:002010-04-07T19:27:06.915+01:00I'm sure there is a principled libertarian cas...I'm sure there is a principled libertarian case against anti-discrimination legislation, but the fact is that Grayling isn't making it. He hasn't the slightest intention of changing the laws, the fact that he vaguely hinted as much testifies to his incoherence rather than any philosophy he cherishes or policy ambitions he nurtures.<br /><br />Did you read this?<br />http://fabulousblueporcupine.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/inside-the-mind-of-chris-grayling/asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-66343957519919576302010-04-07T11:39:59.295+01:002010-04-07T11:39:59.295+01:00LFAT
How can I put this simply? If you rent out a...LFAT<br /><br />How can I put this simply? If you rent out a portion of your house to the public then that part ceases to be your home. It's subject to the laws of the land with regard to trade.<br /><br />Similarly you may not erect a sign saying "Kill all Paedophiles!" in your front garden, or hang a banner from your eaves calling for a new holocaust of the Jews, even though they're YOUR front garden and YOUR eaves.<br /><br />Should you have any more difficulties on this, do consult your local statute book or pay a lawyer to explain it to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-81427031351072760292010-04-07T09:51:42.842+01:002010-04-07T09:51:42.842+01:00Sad, isn't it. Apparently, you can't even...Sad, isn't it. Apparently, you can't even express your own religious views and air your own preferences in your own house under a Labour government.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-27761335040002705232010-04-06T23:23:37.870+01:002010-04-06T23:23:37.870+01:00It may be their fucking house (I thought that was ...It may be their fucking house (I thought that was a brothel by the way) but when they open it to the public they have to obey the law. Or find another business where they don't have to even LOOK at a *shudder* gay man or *shudder, shudder* two gay men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-25684754685211597572010-04-06T14:09:54.949+01:002010-04-06T14:09:54.949+01:00"...and genarally demanding a right not to be...<i>"...and genarally demanding a right not to be offended in any way."</i><br /><br />Which seems to be one aspect that the mainstream can get behind!JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com