tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post8820382845774924795..comments2023-11-02T07:54:22.317+00:00Comments on Unenlightened Commentary.: Putin Love- From The Left & RightRosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-13552162544394735682014-03-06T21:47:27.578+00:002014-03-06T21:47:27.578+00:00Ross,
If any neo-Nazis are supportive of Putin, ...Ross, <br /><br />If any neo-Nazis are supportive of Putin, it does not necessarily mean that he is supportive of them. <br /><br />If Russian forces are surrounding anyone, they are themselves surrounded by the Ukrainian forces in the rest of the country. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11219870920638914624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-32163559554771848262014-03-06T16:18:09.140+00:002014-03-06T16:18:09.140+00:00Martin- sorry to read of your previous experience ...Martin- sorry to read of your previous experience being targeted by the Stormfront website, it sounds very worrying.<br /><br />My point was that most of the neo-Nazi types seem highly supportive of Putin, which is strange if the revolution was led by Nazis. <br /><br />I don't deny that there are vaguely fascist elements in Kiev but they are hardly the majority and the same is true of the Kremlin.<br /><br />On the other point I don't see how it isn't an invasion if the Ukrainian army is surrounded by the Russian forces and even UN mediators are being chased out by Russian irregulars.Rosshttp://fountain.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-15846830985398161912014-03-05T21:55:40.731+00:002014-03-05T21:55:40.731+00:00Infidel753,
Putin is merely a Russian of his gene...Infidel753,<br /><br />Putin is merely a Russian of his generation. That's what he is, with all that that entails. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11219870920638914624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-76751305183270953632014-03-05T21:50:36.876+00:002014-03-05T21:50:36.876+00:00Is it being invaded? Really? Have the Russians dis...Is it being invaded? Really? Have the Russians disrupted Ukrainian communications, taken over the broadcasting and mobile networks, cut the landlines and Internet, seized all the airports and all other vital infrastructure, sent armoured divisions over the border, bombed Kiev, taken the new government into custody and placed Ukraine under martial law? Have they done these things? No, they haven't, so describing what has happened as a Russian invasion of Ukraine is overblown nonsense<br /><br />What they say they have done is, as far as I can see from my place of safety on the other side of Europe, what they actually have done - entered a Russian majority area in order to protect ethnic Russians who seem quite happy for them to be there. <br /><br />I haven't visited Stormfront since getting my own hate page on it a decade ago, and I'm not going there now. <br /><br />"In fact actual Putin supporting Nazis like Israel Shamir are among those who are accusing the Ukrainian demonstrators of being Nazis (and confusingly Jewish puppets as well)" - <br /><br />So Israel Shamir (the name is familiar, I can't immediately place it) says the Ukrainian demonstrators are 'Nazis' or whatever - so this means they are automatically not Nazis, does it? Everything that this guy, whoever he is, claims to be the case is automatically a lie, is it? I'm sorry if I seem to be uncharitable, but that is the argument you appear to be making in your previous comment. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11219870920638914624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-69362579419643167642014-03-05T21:41:44.338+00:002014-03-05T21:41:44.338+00:00I would argue that Putin is "conservative&quo...I would argue that Putin is "conservative" in certain of the senses that the word is generally used in the US nowadays. He's anti-gay, he's forming a tight alliance between church and state, and he's trying to restore an idealized past era which was actually very ugly -- in his case, the Soviet era rather than the 1950s as with American conservatives.<br /><br />Those kinds of things are what mostly come to mind in the US when the word "conservative" is used. Hardly anyone has even heard of Burke.Infidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-60592343795210426972014-03-05T21:06:18.006+00:002014-03-05T21:06:18.006+00:00Calling the Ukrainians "Russophobic" whi...Calling the Ukrainians "Russophobic" while their country is currently being invaded is as inane as calling Danish cartoonists in hiding from Islamic terrorists "Islamophobic".<br /><br />As for the Russian government's propaganda line that the protestors were neo-Nazis- it's funny how actual neo-Nazis seem ecstatic over Putin's invasion- just go over to forums like Stormfront if you doubt it. <br /><br />In fact actual Putin supporting Nazis like Israel Shamir are among those who are accusing the Ukrainian demonstrators of being Nazis (and confusingly Jewish puppets as well).Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-64436227213760492142014-03-05T20:36:15.160+00:002014-03-05T20:36:15.160+00:00"Russia invades countries who refuse to let t..."Russia invades countries who refuse to let the Kremlin decide their economic alliances" - <br /><br />And whose democratically elected governments have just been ousted by neo-Nazi, intensely Russophobic mobs, and in which they restrict their activities to one area in which the majority of the residents are, er, not only pro-Russian but seem quite happy to see them there. <br /><br />Yes, Ross, Russia in Crimea really is just like the Soviet Union in Afghanistan; and this post rseems about as silly as as your repeated assertions that President Putin is not only light-footed but also light on his feet. Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11219870920638914624noreply@blogger.com