tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post8981376597140004993..comments2023-11-02T07:54:22.317+00:00Comments on Unenlightened Commentary.: Scaremongering About Vaccines.Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-38181228325342389752009-10-01T21:21:22.087+01:002009-10-01T21:21:22.087+01:00instead of realising they had a PR problem on thei...<i>instead of realising they had a PR problem on their hands, the government doubled down on the threats and scaremongering. That just made people more suspicious</i><br /><br />You're right. They could have allowed single vaccines for a while.TDKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-31486876175549577902009-10-01T11:02:19.868+01:002009-10-01T11:02:19.868+01:00"Nor am I convinced by the idea of stupid she...<i>"Nor am I convinced by the idea of stupid sheeple needing to be led."</i> <br /><br />Hey, it's the <i>'Guardian'</i>. It's practically their motto! <br /><br />The problem with the MMR vaccine affair was that, instead of realising they had a PR problem on their hands, the government doubled down on the threats and scaremongering. That just made people more sucpicious...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-86008095561176686692009-10-01T10:32:43.768+01:002009-10-01T10:32:43.768+01:00Reading the Guardian comments, the people worrying...Reading the Guardian comments, the people worrying about panic mongering scare me as much as Cath Elliot.<br /><br />There is a danger in ill informed people writing stuff in newspapers but it doesn't seem to me that the experts always get it right either. The MMR scare started in the Lancet and that was the expert journal. <br /><br />Restricting discussion to so called experts means that the establishment would have a veto and could protect their own. Ultimately this amounts to a statist charter.<br /><br />Nor am I convinced by the idea of stupid sheeple needing to be led. We are apparently always on the verge of mob violence and outright panic. It sounds similar to the excuse given for MONA. As individualist's we ought to trust freedom and the ability of people to get it right on their own.<br /><br />Sure newspapers will get it wrong but they will also get a kicking. Truth emerges in the end if we allow freedom.<br /><br />And in case it isn't clear, I not accusing Ross of being in favour of banning such articles, I am talking about the self righteous Guardian commentators.TDKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-90237595326423709202009-10-01T10:10:11.247+01:002009-10-01T10:10:11.247+01:00"Strange how that fact seems to have been for...<i>"Strange how that fact seems to have been forgotten when people choose newspapers to blame for panic-mongering."</i><br /><br />I don't doubt that, panic mongering isn't restricted to the Daily Mail (although as LfaT says their coverage of this case has been awful).<br /><br />Check out this <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/18/us/politics/18michelle.html?_r=3&pagewanted=3&hp&adxnnlx=1213765878-R3%20NqLZWh3WpWfMIcRvP/g" rel="nofollow">New York Times </a>piece on Michelle Obama which approvingly reports her efforts to block the use of the HPV vaccine in Chicago schools:<br /><br /><i>"She also altered the hospital’s research agenda. When the human papillomavirus vaccine, which can prevent cervical cancer, became available, researchers proposed approaching local school principals about enlisting black teenage girls as research subjects.<br /><br />Mrs. Obama stopped that. The prospect of white doctors performing a trial with black teenage girls summoned the specter of the Tuskegee syphilis experiment of the mid-20th century, when white doctors let hundreds of black men go untreated to study the disease."</i><br /><br /><br />Julia- yeah I saw that.Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263275229285861236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-89084595326272313322009-10-01T09:38:02.415+01:002009-10-01T09:38:02.415+01:00The Daily Mail coverage of this story was shocking...The Daily Mail coverage of this story was shockingly amateurish and they drew their conclusions before the scientists had even had a chance to look into the case - and, naturally, they found no link between the girl's tragic death and the vaccine.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-39474785315487802972009-10-01T09:14:34.501+01:002009-10-01T09:14:34.501+01:00Interestingly the Observer was initially just as p...Interestingly the Observer was initially just as panicky about MMR as the Mail. Strange how that fact seems to have been forgotten when people choose newspapers to blame for panic-mongering.TDKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27939552.post-86514341729684065422009-10-01T05:46:31.148+01:002009-10-01T05:46:31.148+01:00Cath Elliot, of all people, had a CiF column on i...Cath Elliot, of all people, had a CiF column on it. Check out the kicking she gets in the comments:<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/29/cervical-cancer-hpv-vaccine-mmrJuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com